Soundbox2
Components
Status key: ✓ = got(?), ✓? = to verify, £ = to buy, B = to borrow, M = make
Name | Status | Price | Notes |
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Sack truck | ✓ | Has larger wheels and extendable handles. | |
Storage cover | ✓ | Motor bike cover | |
Battery + Amp Box(s) | £ | ?? | Robust. Moisture-proof/release value. Two boxes that stack? Dewalt DWST1 – 71195? 33 x 44 x 30 cm. |
Ratchet straps/bungee chords | ✓ | ||
Baseboard + frame within box | ✓ / ? | Wooden panel(s) - right sizes? Goes over batteries? Fits to box width+height at a certain depth, suspension and equipment above | |
Foam inserts | £ | £15 | Suspension enough for amp/etc? [1] |
Battery | B / £ | £90 | Can probably borrow. Wet cell, lead acid, deep cycle. Possibly two. ~110Ah. Ballast for stack. |
Car batter charger | B / £ | ?? | Ampage? Charge times for batteries? 10A: [2]. 12A: [3] [4]. 8A: [5]. 3.8A: [6]. 6A: [7]. 7A: [8] |
Voltage reader / power output regulator | £ | £15? | Cuts off bellow a certain voltage. Alarm sound? |
Battery terminal connectors | £ / B | £15? | Quick release? |
Amp power cables | £ | £15? | Welding cable? |
Capacitor | £ | ~£50?? | Required if not using lead acid for current to be sunk into? Also maybe for amp peak power? |
Fuse + holder | ✓ | £2 | Common blade fuse holder? Circuit breaker? Got a generic car amp one anyway. |
Class-D amplifier | ✓ | AudioControl LC-6.1200. 125 watts RMS x 6 at 4 ohms (200 watts RMS x 6 at 2 ohms). 400 watts RMS x 3 bridged at 4 ohms (4-ohm stable in bridged mode) | |
Speaker cable | ✓? | Have some, 8 AWG, was power cable | |
Speakers | ✓ | Tannoy Profile 632. M/T. Manual. 150W peak. 10-90W recommended. Lockdown the amp! | |
30ltr plastic box | ✓ | To contain Tannoy speakers | |
Bass driver | £ | ?? | To sort at a later date |
Bass enclosure | £/M | ?? | To sort at a later date |
Power step-down buck converter ,for player & device charging | £ | ?? | Buck converter 12V to 5V USB [9] [10] [11][12] [13] [14] |
Player cables | ✓/£ | £3 | RCA phono to RCA phono (got) or 3.5mm (need better) [15] |
Box for player | Separate to avoid exposing other equipment Dri Box 285 IP55 Weatherproof Green | ||
Ground loop isolator | £ | £6 | Stop pops from electrics on the same ground. For generation only? |
Music player | ✓ / £ / B | ?? | Head unit? Android phone as media server (as wifi AP at times). Single-board-computer for a later time. |
Music storage | £ | ?? | Largest MicroSD card available (compatible with phone?)? 256Gb USB flash via USB-OTG for phone based solution? |
Infrared receiver + remote control | ✓ / £ | £22? | For Android via USB-OTG, or an SBC. Got a first generation Flirc USB dongle, programmable so IR code -> keypress. Infrared fiber extension? |
LED lighting | ✓ | Push toggle LED circles, for sticking to the inside of boxes | |
FM transmitter | ✓ | 1W | |
Aerial | £ / ? | Would go up side of sack truck. |
Search focus priorities:
- Battery+Amp Box(es)
Table template:
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Also wanted: soldering iron, power-tools, epoxy
- YouTube: Make your own Boombox
Notes
Mobility
- Garden cart with proper size for box - Draper Steel Mesh Gardeners Cart - £67.82 Amazon for next day delivery
- Sack truck with big wheels - got already, turned up randomly in the mail with no return address or follow-up.
Storage
Box for amp, battery, etc.
- LED lamp(s) for in the box for seeing things at night
- 1m LED strip - £3
Securing
- Bungee chords to secure box in the cart - Amazon - £5
Tatted some mini ratchet straps
Backboard
- Wooden board for mounting amp, etc., that has two long blocks across the base that are screwed in from the outside - free?
- Screws/washers - £5 ???
- (Epoxy to seal the base screws? - £8???)
Battery
- Leisure deep cycle battery - ideal: 120A/h (heavy) - Ben W. has a 70A/h and 110A.h available to use?
- Li-Ion - lightest, most expensive
- LiFePo4 - lighter
- Lead-acid - heavy, ballast
- Automatic battery charger - Halfords - £39
- (Capacitor over battery? not needed?)
- (fuse???)
Power (watts) is volts times amps.
Amp is 1200W.
Future proof for future speakers.
Device charging also.
2A pull for usb charge? at 12V = 24W
"In the USB 1.0 and 2.0 specs, a standard downstream port is capable of delivering up to 500mA (0.5A)
"With USB 3.0, it moves up to 900mA (0.9A). The charging downstream and dedicated charging ports provide up to 1,500mA (1.5A).
"USB 3.1 bumps throughput to 10Gbps in what’s called SuperSpeed+ mode, bringing it roughly equivalent with first-generation Thunderbolt. It also supports power draw of 1.5A and 3A over the 5V bus." [16]
5V x 3A = 15W
Power cables + fuse
CSA - cross sectional area
welding cable is thicker at the same gauge due to a better jacket, still flexible though (turning radius = 15x diamater)
got power cables already.
Total: £0 (or something for welding cables)
- (Battery terminals - single connection for now - £7)
- (Optional: Power on cabling - rated to 500mW??)
Capacitor
Needed?
Class D amplifier
- BASS FACE DB4.2 [17]
- BASS FACE DB4.2 - amazon.co.uk
800W - 75W x 4 RMS @ 4 Ohm
bridged: 200W x 2 RMS @ 4 Ohm
100W for 8 Ohm (tannoy speakers are 90W RMS??)
£75.72 on amazon w/ delivery
other;
- Pioneer Digital Power Amplifier 400w 4Channel - 2x100W RMS - £99
- Lepy/Lepai LP7498EA 200W Class D Digital Hi-Fi AMP Home Amplifier RCA L/R inputs with Bluetooth Compatibility 4.5A Power Supply
- Lepy LP7498E+ 200W Class D HiFi Amplifier Audio Amp Bluetooth 4.1 Adapter - bonanzamarket
- high distortion
- AudioControl LC-6.1200
Speaker cable
- Speaker cabling - thicker gauge cable - Connection by Audison 12AWG - £3.99/m at 5 meters(?)
- Speaker connectors - for getting out the box - £8???
Speakers
- Speakers - Tannoy 632 - Milk has these
- Recommended amplifier power: 10-90W (no detailed spec online.. 90W RMS??)
- Sensitivity: 87dB
- Nominal impedance: 8 Ohm
- Frequency response: 55 - 30.000Hz
- Crossover frequency: 4Khz [18]
Crossover
- 2-way passive crossover (3.8Khz mid+tweeter) - Phonocar 5/342 - £28 + £5 shipping
- Input power: 100W RMS / 200W Max
- Crossover Frequency: 3.8 KHz
- Cutt-off Slope: 12 dB/Oct
- Impedance: 4 Ohm
Or on amp? Only possible with high end.
Total: £33
Bass driver / enclosure
Player cables
- (RCA phono to RCA phono cable - head unit to amp - £5? probably got one)
- (3.5mm to RCA phono cable - £5? got one)
Ground loop isolator
Player
Car head unit:
£17 on aliexpress.com for a basic head unit - mp3 (usb, sdcard, 2Gb internal), aux, remote, bluetooth v3..
- Bluetooth 4 not really available for cheap yet.
- https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bluetooth-MP3-Decoder-Board-Hitam-Remote-SD-MP3-Player-M011-Remote-Control-Module-FM-USB-2/32667428199.html - no case, cheap, no frills
No frills:
- RCA phono w/ female-female adaptor plus RCA to 3.5mm cable.
DIY:
Free?
- Run an Android phone, connect to it via IR via USB to Go, occasionally as a WiFi access point.
- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icecoldapps.serversultimate.packb - network streaming
Expensive?:
- Mini computer
- Controlled by infrared
- Jukebox
- Wifi AP and web control
- Mopidy - MPD based, web GUI, apps, etc. (Squeezebox multi-source networked audio sync functionality easily implementable if required)
- Arch Linux? Or prepackaged? Deends on board.
- eMMC - for distro & applications.
- USB3.0 - for fast file transfer
- media storage - SATA SSD? or just use USB3.0 flash drive?
- DAC HAT (RCA Phono)
- Wi-Fi AP - for multi-party web access. external antenna?
- Infrared - via USB (+extension cable). Flirc dongle.
- FM tx - via USB. something like this (usb audio, minicoax), though that's just under £90
- Two video outputs - to futureproof for projector and control display
- 4K 60FPS - for one output.
- Single board computer - Raspberry Pi size, or 90x90, like the upcoming ODROID-N1. Depends on how beefy the board is, peripherals available, mainline kernel support, community support/ecosystem.
HDMI DACs
HDMI has 8 digital audio outputs. Skip a 2 channel DAC HAT, use HDMI to RCA Phono conversion?? Would work for movies and utilising extra amp channels (monitors/headphones/automation system, etc.).
- https://www.avforums.com/threads/5-1-capable-dac-with-hdmi-input-recommendations.2116347 - higher end overview
HDMI to 5.1 RCA Phono:
- Tendak AV-152-BK-UK - 5.1 Audio Decoder Digital 5.1 Audio Gear Decoder HDMI Audio Decoder Surround Analog Sound Decoder HDMI Audio Extractor Support Volume Adjustable Decoding Dolby/DTS/AC3 (6RCA Output) - £47.56
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Extractor-Digital-Adjustment-Surround-Converter/dp/B0777PH1NL - same as above, slightly differing port arrangement, £33.99
HDMI to 7.1 RCA Phono:
- ST6000 DAC ES9023x4 HDMI 24Bit / 192kHz 7.1CH for Raspberry Pi - €71,10 (France)
- Octo Raspberry pi sound card - Audio Injector - Providing : 8 outputs, 6 inputs, with differential headers for your own custom breakouts. This item includes the RCA breakouts.
- Ambery AU-HDLB2 - HDMI LPCM 7.1 5.1 Surround Audio Decoder With 4Kx2K + EDID Support. $58 / £41 - as above but handles 4k and no rgb out?
- Ligawo 6518770 HDMI Multiformat DAC converter - grinds the HDMI source signal by | compatible with HDMI 2.0 and all other HDMI versions | High Speed HDMI FullHD to 1080p 50 / 60Hz / 4K * 2K 30Hz, HDCP, 3D, CEC, no ARC. converts digital 2.0 / 7.1 / 5.1 LPCM in analog 2.0 / 7.1 / 5.1 audio signals (RCA) | parallel output RCA, Toslink + HDMI possible - £72 (Germany)
- AU-11SA - De-embed Audio from HDMI (7.1) - CYP Europe - Supports un-compressed digital LPCM 7.1, 5.1 or 2 channels and compressed digital Bitstream (Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, and DTS-HD Master Audio) through HDMI input and output ports. 3.5mm audio jack out.
- Evolve II-4K HDMI Multi-Channel DAC - Essence For High Res Audio - an HDMI Multi-Channel Audio DAC de-embedder designed to extract the native, uncompressed LPCM multi-channel 24/192K audio signal from an HDMI v2.0a source like the new 4K Blu-ray players. It allows you to extract the original HDMI hi res audio signal and convert it to digital optical (bandwidth restricted) or analog multi-channel audio. It supports decoding of high resolution digital audio formats including LPCM 7.1CH, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby Atmos and DTS-HD Master Audio, and supports audio sampling rates up to 192KHz at 24 bits, allowing fully synchronized video and audio. - £154 (USA, exc/ shipping/duty)
- AU-11SA-4K22 - HDMI Audio De-embedder (up to 7.1) with built-in Repeater (4K, HDCP2.2, HDMI2.0) - CYP Europe - The optical output supported audio : LPCM, Dolby Digital and DTS up to 5.1. HDMI Bypass output supported audio : Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus, and DTS-HD Master Audio. Analogue stereo audio outputs support LPCM 2 channel, 5.1 and 7.1.
- nanoAVR HDA - a high-resolution 8-channel digital audio processor combined with a 2x1 HDMI audio and video switch and 8-channel D/A convertor. The floating-point SHARC digital signal processor (DSP) at the core of the nanoAVR HDA 8 channels of uncompressed audio over HDMI (Linear PCM) and provides the processed output over both HDMI and through eight RCA analog connectors. - £250 (USA)
Misc
- solding iron to make holes in box
- epoxy to seal holes
Music library
Grip:
~/sounds/music/FLAC/%A/%A-%y-%d/%A-%y-%d-%t-%n.%x
Grip multiartist:
~/sounds/music/FLAC/%A/%A-%y-%d/%a-%y-%d-%t-%n.%x
- http://docs.puddletag.net/source/function.html
- http://docs.puddletag.net/source/scripting.html
- http://docs.puddletag.net/source/tags.html
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To transcode library from FLAC to Opus and add in MP3s.
Cost estimation
evolving... to redo
very basic estimated cost, sans some stuff
- amp - £76
- crossover - £33
- cable/connector - £12
- housing - £120.92
is £242.92
Rulez
- Design so that as few rules are required...
- No mains or genny powered equipment to be connected in any way!!!
- Do not use a battery for sound whilst it is being charged!!!
- No inverter!!!
else the zzzzz get ya
((how to transfer from linux/windows usb to android without airdroid (internet)?))